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2005-9-12 Silo, Conversation with messengers in Aranjuez

…We are placing a lot of emphasis on disorganization. It’s that we have to make an effort. It’s very extraordinary. Because many friends come from a different kind of work, of course. They come from a work where there are guidelines, calendars, prioritization of objectives, of ways of working. Well, we have known, people of the Message have known, they know activities that are done in other ambit, in other places that are highly organized. So, for the people who know those highly organized works, we tell them that what is prioritized in the Message is work that is highly disorganized. No, it’s not the same mold. But then, how are we going to create awareness? It is not going to be a systematic, directed kind of diffusion. It’s going to be a gaseous phenomenon, without a defined form. But then you guys are doing the opposite of what they are doing? I wouldn’t put it like that. I would say that we are doing a work that compensates other works. That what is not achieved in one way, is achieved in another way. That practically territorial, horizontal kind of expansion; here we are looking instead to set up beacons that give reference, a set of beacons, and people will see. People will see if they are interested in that beacon or not. People who navigate over the seas and the oceans see those beacons, or not, and they drown and sink. And we do our part and everything is fine. And what else can we do? Not much more. People are very creative. People will go and do things. Fine. That’s what I can tell you about this theme. And there is not much else. And what’s so new about that? Nothing. But it was nice to get together to see each other and to talk about this and to emphasize the disorganization. Because it’s not that mentality. It is another mentality. It is the mentality of the new times, disorganization. It’s where the system is heading. Ok, but the system is heading towards chaos. And so are we. We have nothing to control. What is happening with the system is that the centrifugal forces are increasingly intense. And those centrifugal forces carry in within them contradictions of all kinds, aggressions and contradictions and alterations and that whole process that we are starting to see in the world, which for sure is not very interesting. And what, are we going to do the same thing? No, we are not. Our disorganization is of a different kind, and our work is in reality very relational. And that disintegration is produced not only at the political, social and economic level, but continues at the interpersonal and personal levels as well. And nobody is gaining or will gain with that. But this process is happening, this disaster is happening. We have not created it, nor are we interested in it being created, but we will do our part. And we will adapt to this disorganization with our gaseous, vaporous, unstructured form, which will seep under the doors. It will reach everywhere. These are the things we can talk about, because really there isn’t much more. There really isn’t much more. So rather than working with the structured, we work with the unstructured. Instead of the full we work with the empty. Instead of clothes we work with people. Instead of simply formal exteriority, we work with interiority. And we do not oppose one thing to another. We complement, we complement. And our halls will be empty. But you are going to build something so that there will be nothing? Exactly! Because there will be more than just nothing. There will be people there. And what those people need is an environment, a place where they can do their things. But they don’t need pictures, or hanging things on the walls. On the contrary, they need to be able to make contact with themselves. That’s what will certainly be the most important. To make contact with themselves…